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Georgette September 07, 2023 at 12:07 PM

What other optimization tools are there? I have marketmuse but have been using a client's Clearscope account recently and have really enjoyed it too. Wondering what other optimization software is out there and if anyone has any faves

Mile Zivkovic September 07, 2023 at 12:09 PM

Clearscope for ease of use. Surfer is good too but has a bit of a learning curve if you really want to max out your content. Frase is super easy to use and I’d recomment it for optimizing your existing content.

Georgette September 07, 2023 at 12:10 PM

I've heard that about surfer. I've been intimidated but want to get my nerd hat on

Mile Zivkovic September 07, 2023 at 12:11 PM

SurferSEO goes one step beyond Clearscope in that it has rules for images, headings, content length and more. Achieving a 90+ score in SurferSEO is significantly harder than achieving an A++ score in Clearscope.

Georgette September 07, 2023 at 12:15 PM

This is sounding super up my alley (with my gamified mind haha). Thank you Mike!

Octavia Drexler September 07, 2023 at 12:35 PM

+1 on Frase, yup!

NeuronWriter seems to work decently (a bit clunky, and I’m not 100% sure about the data accuracy, but it’s very cost-effective so there’s that…)

Mile Zivkovic September 07, 2023 at 12:36 PM

Just recently tried NeuronWriter and I’m not a fan of the UX.

Octavia Drexler September 07, 2023 at 12:36 PM

Yeah it’s clunky for sure, but for the price…

Mile Zivkovic September 07, 2023 at 12:36 PM

True 😄

Elsier September 07, 2023 at 01:47 PM

There's Content Harmony and Frase, too.

Rosie September 07, 2023 at 01:48 PM

  • 1 for Content Harmony and Clearscope. Both are best in breed (in my fairly limited experience!)

Georgette September 07, 2023 at 02:09 PM

Is NeuronWriter similar to Marketmuse? It's a little clunky but the pricing has me rn. Hoping to commit to something a level up

Dusten September 07, 2023 at 02:17 PM

I'll throw in another vote for Surfer. I prefer it to Clearscope!

Amna Aslam September 07, 2023 at 02:54 PM

Clear scope
Content Harmony

Amna Aslam September 07, 2023 at 02:59 PM

@Dusten why do you prefer Surfer over Clearscope?

Pooja Seshadri September 07, 2023 at 03:50 PM

@Georgette Hey, I'd recommend trying our tool - Narrato. The platform helps to optimize content for readers as well as search engines, with readability, grammar & plagiarism checks.

Jes Kirkwood September 07, 2023 at 05:50 PM

Positional is new - can't recommend because I haven't used it, but I did demo the product. Definitely in its infancy, but some cool features.

Linsey Knerl September 07, 2023 at 05:53 PM

Surfer all the way.

Neil Mathew September 07, 2023 at 06:00 PM

Big fan of Clearscope

Octavia Drexler September 07, 2023 at 07:24 PM

@Georgette I’d say Neuron is more of a Frase/ SurferSEO copycat, rather than Marketmuse. But as I said, it’s not my absolute favorite (bar from the cost effectiveness which could be a factor)

For a good cost to quality ratio I’d recommend Frase, though. And if you can spend more, Surfer or Clearscope (I like Surfer more tbh)

Dusten September 07, 2023 at 07:37 PM

@Amna Aslam I think it's a bit better at helping you assemble briefs and understanding the competitive landscape in search for a given topic. The scoring methodology is both a bit more robust and also easier to grok in my estimation. Both are good tools, I think Surfer just has a bit more going for it.

Lisa Kalner Williams September 07, 2023 at 10:04 PM

@Octavia Drexler @Mile Zivkovic Have you seen NeuronWriter's recent UI update? It's muuuuch improved. Released a week or so ago.

Mile Zivkovic September 07, 2023 at 10:05 PM

@Lisa Kalner Williams, yes, just used Neuron this week. I use it simultaneously with Clearscope, Surfer and Frase and it is my least favorite of them all

David Hartshorne September 11, 2023 at 12:49 PM

If you’re still interested @Georgette I reviewed several optimisation tools in an article for Zapier. (Not sure I can drop links here, so DM if you want it.)

Dawn Baird September 18, 2023 at 01:44 PM

If you're publishing on a WordPress website, the YOAST plugin is fab.